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第一台期待已久更新的 Apple 专业级笔记本电脑已经在我们的拆解桌上了,但它是什么鬼? 没有触摸栏的MacBook Pro? 带功能键的 MacBook Pro?带两个Thunderbolt 3 端口的 MacBook Pro? 没有人知道该怎么称呼它,但我们知道怎么做。 继续阅读我们的MacBook Pro 2016年末款拆解吧(ESC 键版)。

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我们已经等了很多月的 MacBook Pro 更新终于来了。我们会发现什么新玩意呢?这些是我们知道的基础信息: 2560 × 1600 分辨率(227dpi)的 13.3英寸 LED 背光 IPS 视网膜显示屏,支持 P3 色域 配备 Intel 锐炬 540 集成显卡的 2.0 GHz “Skylake” 双核 Intel 酷睿 i5 (睿频达3.1GHz)
  • 我们已经等了很多月的 MacBook Pro 更新终于来了。我们会发现什么新玩意呢?这些是我们知道的基础信息:

    • 2560 × 1600 分辨率(227dpi)的 13.3英寸 LED 背光 IPS 视网膜显示屏,支持 P3 色域

    • 配备 Intel 锐炬 540 集成显卡的 2.0 GHz “Skylake” 双核 Intel 酷睿 i5 (睿频达3.1GHz)

    • 1866 MHz LPDDR3 的 8GB 板载内存(可以选配 16GB)

    • 256GB,512GB,或 1TB PCIe 板载 SSD

    • 支持充电,DisplayPort,Thunderbolt,第二代 USB 3.1 的两个 Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C)接口

  • 此款型号是配备传统功能键的而不是新流行的 Touch Bar。如果你有兴趣,那就继续往下看吧!我们会在未来短短几周内拆解新的配备 Touch Bar 的 MacBook Pro。

I get that the new touch bar will replace the Function keys, but what if you use Function keys in Excel etc ..... how will you perform these functions with the new macbook pro ?

gregnrichardson - 回复

机身左侧有两个 Thunderbolt 3 接口... 然后,没有然后了。 USB-C 接口是通用的,但是你可能需要通过转接线来与你的现有硬件交互 一个孤单的 3.5 mm 耳机接口在机身右边。
  • 机身左侧有两个 Thunderbolt 3 接口... 然后,没有然后了。

    • USB-C 接口是通用的,但是你可能需要通过转接线来与你的现有硬件交互

  • 一个孤单的 3.5 mm 耳机接口在机身右边。

    • 等等,这是什么鬼!

    • 归根结底,争论的地方在于耳机接口是一个过时的硬件,因为在 iPhone 7 上就已经不存在了,所以在这里看起来就... 很奇怪。

    • 但是,嘿!你以为你是谁?这是个广泛使用的标准,我们几乎 100% 在使用它。但是你却不能把 iPhone 7 的 Lightning EarPods 插入这款电脑,因为你知道的这款耳机需要的接口并不存在。

  • 完整检查过外壳后,我们记下了新的型号: A1708

if they not put jack, when they can't show dj staff on presentation

Px pik - 回复

The reason they didn't want it in the iPhone is because it takes up too much space in such a thin, small device. A laptop, even a new, thin one, still has a bit more breathing room and a port like that has less of an impact. I feel like you guys know this, know that *we* know this, and just added that comment to rile people up. =P

prokanda - 回复

It's not just a "headphone jack" it's also an optical audio port. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202730

Kirke - 回复

are you sure? on that page the late 2016 is not listed...

diendi -

S/PDIF optical digital audio out is also not listed in the system information. Pretty sure it's just a headphone jack.

Jeff Suovanen -

I don't think it's odd to have a jack. A laptop and a phone are different machines. People use laptops to watch movies and edit multimedia...

Zaphod B - 回复

I believe the removal of the jack from the iPhone was to increase it's water resistance. Not as much of an issue with laptops.

imtimrob - 回复

尽管我们渴望通过触摸 Touch Bar 来发送 Emoji 表情,但这款笔记本缺少了 2016 款 MacBook Pro 系列的主要功能—它被传统物理功能键取代了。 然而,我们看见一个超长退出键带领着一排功能键。 在潜入深深的肚子里之前,我们拉出了2016款配备视网膜屏幕的玫瑰金 MacBook 老朋友 来做对比。
  • 尽管我们渴望通过触摸 Touch Bar 来发送 Emoji 表情,但这款笔记本缺少了 2016 款 MacBook Pro 系列的主要功能—它被传统物理功能键取代了。

  • 然而,我们看见一个超长退出键带领着一排功能键。

  • 在潜入深深的肚子里之前,我们拉出了2016款配备视网膜屏幕的玫瑰金 MacBook 老朋友 来做对比。

    • Pro 在它的粉红色兄弟姐妹面前看起来像个巨人,因为有一个看起来更大的触摸板。

    • 同样的,扬声器格栅也已经迁往键盘的左右两边,可能因为 Pro 薄至半英寸的厚度的原因。

  • 最后,这是 X 射线内部窥探。现在该我们动手了!

  • 六年以来 MacBook 笔记本使用的都是梅花型螺丝钉,现在即使是闭着眼也能把这 6 颗螺丝钉给扭出来了。

  • 只有 6 颗螺丝钉!2015 年的 MacBook 用了 8 颗,而大部分 MacBook Pro 一般都用 10 颗。

The screws for the bottom cover is a T5 right? The six screws.

Also, do you know if it's possible to buy a set of replacement screws for the cover?

One of my screws is stripped, I can unscrew it but if I do I can't use it again for sure.

Calby - 回复

I did mean P5 and not T5, the same size that it is for the MacBook Air and the MacBook Pro 2015?

Calby - 回复

One more question, are all the screws the same size (length)?

Calby - 回复

  • 在撬开后背板之前,我们很快的被新款MacBook Pro的防撬机身难到了。

  • 使用吸盘可以帮助我们把后背板打开到合适的角度。内部四边都有卡扣固定,使用卡片从背板缝隙中插入并划过一周即可分离卡扣。这时后背板便可取下

    • 此次多出的卡扣设计节省了以往的固定材料并且减少了相比于上一代的螺丝数量

打开卡扣并取下后面板,然后断开电池连接。但是我们发现了一些奇怪的事情 这个宽头T5螺丝将电池接口固定的非常牢固 取下螺丝后可以看到一些铜质的触点。两个大的是正极触点,小的触点可能是检测用触点
  • 打开卡扣并取下后面板,然后断开电池连接。但是我们发现了一些奇怪的事情

  • 这个宽头T5螺丝将电池接口固定的非常牢固

  • 取下螺丝后可以看到一些铜质的触点。两个大的是正极触点,小的触点可能是检测用触点

    • 检测触点是用于诊断和调试主板,也可用于短路主板

suspect the small pins are i2c or similar communication points to connect to whatever electronics within the battery (or some temperature sensor or something)

sxpert - 回复

根据直觉,接下来我们尝试拆下触控板然后我们很惊奇的发现这次触控板非常容易取下 相比于上一代13英寸MacBook Pro触控板 ,这次的触控板有着质的飞跃 我们在触控板背部找到了非常熟悉的几个芯片
  • 根据直觉,接下来我们尝试拆下触控板然后我们很惊奇的发现这次触控板非常容易取下

    • 相比于上一代13英寸MacBook Pro触控板 ,这次的触控板有着质的飞跃

  • 我们在触控板背部找到了非常熟悉的几个芯片

    • 意法半导体 STM32F103VB ARM Cortex-M3 MCU

    • 博通 BCM5976C1KUFBG 触控主控

  • 同时也找到了Taptic Engine。即Force Touch背后的魔力(电磁震动模块),由两个螺丝非常简单的固定在触控板上

借助刚才触控板的成功拆解,接下来就要将电池拆下 我们的信心很快就被击垮了。回想起被上一代MacBook Pro电池支配的恐惧 但是好消息是我们现在有一套非常成熟的iFixit电池工具。我们重返“战场”--对电池进行加热后用塑料卡片取下电池
  • 借助刚才触控板的成功拆解,接下来就要将电池拆下

  • 我们的信心很快就被击垮了。回想起被上一代MacBook Pro电池支配的恐惧

  • 但是好消息是我们现在有一套非常成熟的iFixit电池工具。我们重返“战场”--对电池进行加热后用塑料卡片取下电池

    • 另一个好消息,由于此前已经将触控板移除,我们可以对付那个非常烦人的中部电池

  • 经过坚持不懈的努力,我们终于把电池拆下

I have to wonder how long this step took. I have to wonder if you have to re-heat the adhesive to re-install.

Unclebugs - 回复

do you sell these batteries ?

Ali Aziz - 回复

新电池 = 运作更快的 iPhone
维修工具包价格在 $16.99
54.5瓦时,相比上一代电池容量减少了27%,采用三块分体式电池设计替代原先的六块电池设计 这款Pro要比配备Touch Bar的Pro续航时间更长,配备Touch Bar的Pro电池容量为49.2瓦时 苹果声称这代Pro的续航时间与去年41.4瓦时的13''Pro一样同为10小时的无线上网操作时间
  • 54.5瓦时,相比上一代电池容量减少了27%,采用三块分体式电池设计替代原先的六块电池设计

    • 这款Pro要比配备Touch Bar的Pro续航时间更长,配备Touch Bar的Pro电池容量为49.2瓦时

    • 苹果声称这代Pro的续航时间与去年41.4瓦时的13''Pro一样同为10小时的无线上网操作时间

  • 言归正传,我们发现电池主控并不像是用精确的手工部件包裹、而是像Lighting转3.5mm AUX由厚的环氧树脂包裹

现在来看一看这个保护的很好的固态硬盘。首先撕掉上面的强力胶纸 众所周知,每一款苹果设备都采用了高性能 PCIe接口固态硬盘,但是这次看起来苹果又使用了新的接口
  • 现在来看一看这个保护的很好的固态硬盘。首先撕掉上面的强力胶纸

  • 众所周知,每一款苹果设备都采用了高性能 PCIe接口固态硬盘,但是这次看起来苹果又使用了新的接口

  • 把电磁屏蔽罩拆下看看苹果这次到底使用了什么固态硬盘

    • 这次苹果依旧保留了可拆卸的固态硬盘,这点非常好,方便以后的升级

This is much more for important for data recovery than for upgrades. Just imagine the horror when you spill a bit of coke on your mac and 512 GB of your data are gone. This way you can swap the SSD to your new Macbook Pro and just go on as nothing happened.

jirituzil - 回复

Are you sure it won't also be fried along with the other components?

plink53 - 回复

Chances it will stay alive are very high as it is a small component and shielded from both sides.

jirituzil - 回复

Looks like a PCIe 3.0 x8?

dicalp - 回复

Any chance the shield is meant to reduce the chirping/grinding sounds of the SSD? Does it differ from the Early 2015 in ways that would be likely to impact the amount of high frequency noise from the SSD?

Marius Bendiksen - 回复

As for swapping the SSD for a new computer - are we sure that the computer doesn't key the computer's UUID or something to the flash translation table (or some other part) of the flash? Even if you *don't* have FileVault encryption turned on?

jimwitte - 回复

Will you ever find a compatible SSD on alternative market? Is it an option to buy the 256GB model and upgrade it by yourself?

Emanuele io - 回复

But it might indicate that Apple will offer an "upgrade"path in the future (Optane/XPoint when Intel figure out how to make it work? Yeah, I know, wishful thinking). Or could they stuff some other chip on that board? Instead of using 4 chips for the SSD, use two higher-density chips and put an M2 chip in the remaining space?

("Our latest baby - the second generation M2 motion co-processor. Packed with new and exciting features.. we're sure you're going to love it!" me writing Apple's press release for them..)

jimwitte - 回复

Does the 2017 model also feature removable SSD?

nicholasaujalay - 回复

yes, it does. though i wish i could find one of the ssds

Andre Johnson -

来看看固态硬盘的细节 闪迪 SDRQKBDC4 064G 64G NAND 闪存颗粒 (x4,共256GB) 苹果 338500227 芯片
  • 来看看固态硬盘的细节

    • 闪迪 SDRQKBDC4 064G 64G NAND 闪存颗粒 (x4,共256GB)

    • 苹果 338500227 芯片

    • 德州仪器 58879D 金氧半场效晶体管(MOSFET)

    • F4432ACPE-GD-F 像是镁光 512MB DDR2 缓存

      • 我们发现在这个芯片下方有一个隆起

    • 把缓存颗粒成功拆下,里面还有一个苹果 338500199 固态硬盘主控

      • 这是我们第一次在苹果定制的可拆卸固态硬盘上发现这个芯片。希望这玩意儿在未来的升级的时候还能用

From the information shown in the OS X, the SSD controller should be the same one used in the MacBook released early 2016. F4432ACPE-GD-F could be 4Gb LPDDR3 from Micron.

JJ Wu - 回复

Is this controller proprietary and required for use or will other companies (OWC) be able to provide replacement/larger SSDs for this MBP?

plink53 - 回复

It is Apple proprietary NVMe SSD controller.

JJ Wu -

Micron has a part number which is similar to F4432ACPE-GD-F.

http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en...

https://octopart.com/edf4432acpe-gd-f-es...

F4432ACPE-GD-F could be Micron's 4Gb LPDDR3.

JJ Wu -

SSD controller inside Apple Macbook 2016. It is AP0256J.

http://www.macotakara.jp/blog/archives/0...

SSD controller in the Apple MacBook Pro 2016. It is also AP0256J.

http://www.macotakara.jp/blog/macintosh/...

The difference is PCIe lane numbers. In the MacBook 2016, it is 2-lanes PCIe 3.0 and it is 4-lanes PCIe 3.0 in the MacBook Pro 2016.

JJ Wu - 回复

> first time we've seen Apple's … controller in a removable

Did you not see late 2015 iMac and MacBook Air? Both contain Apple NVMe blades.

http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-...

http://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2015...

http://blog.macsales.com/33572-owc-unbox...

unsubstantiated - 回复

Recall that Apple purchased Anobit, an Israeli SSD controller company back in 2011.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2011/12/app...

Another Guest - 回复

Good day~sir,

Could I ask a question here?

Where can I buy Texas Instruments 58879D MOSFET? I have a CSD18536KCS which is an N-Channel NexFET power mosfet also from Texas Instruments, can I use it instead of 58879D?

Thank you in adavance .

mini - 回复

我们又被另外一个“可爱”的困难难住了--扬声器模块:震动抑制螺丝,像是此前在iMac上所见过的 这些扬声器传说表现性能比上一代更好。这需要更强健的底板来保证震动
  • 我们又被另外一个“可爱”的困难难住了--扬声器模块:震动抑制螺丝,像是此前在iMac上所见过的

    • 这些扬声器传说表现性能比上一代更好。这需要更强健的底板来保证震动

  • 我家的电脑有两个扬声器,一个是黑的另一个也是黑的。拆完扬声器,这个拆解也变得更有韵味了

https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/ig... - Is the black thing on the left side of the screen just an empty place holder? Thinking of the "Pro" Pro (not this "Air" Pro) models with a dedicated graphic card have two fans, this model should have more space inside.

Doc Brown - 回复

If I'm seeing what you're seeing, I think you're talking about the rectangular space where the SSD was connected?

Sam Lionheart -

What are the silver round-rectangle things on the edge of the speakers assembly? Are those what actually creates vibration? (I really need to read up on modern speaker technology - my knowledge stops at coil-and-cone speakers..)

jimwitte - 回复

接下来到了激动人心的主板拆解时间(感觉就像刚刚买的机器拆掉包装一样,毕竟俗话说“开箱爽过吸xx”),感觉春节要早了好几个月 现在来看看苹果在发布会上夸耀的“Advanced thermal architecture”(高性能散热架构) 我们对这个高性能散热架构有些许的失望,这架构真的只是把固定散热器的螺丝移到了主板后方
  • 接下来到了激动人心的主板拆解时间(感觉就像刚刚买的机器拆掉包装一样,毕竟俗话说“开箱爽过吸xx”),感觉春节要早了好几个月

  • 现在来看看苹果在发布会上夸耀的“Advanced thermal architecture”(高性能散热架构)

  • 我们对这个高性能散热架构有些许的失望,这架构真的只是把固定散热器的螺丝移到了主板后方

    • 如果你一定要问的话,我们要说苹果对于这个架构的宣传有一些“大胆”。

If you check apple website, the touchbar version has 2 fans instead of one, and th 15 inch has "twice as many blades"

jozefferko9 - 回复

Thermal architecture has a lot more than heatsink path area and location to it. It has to do with where the sources are postioned, conductivity and length of the path from sources to sinks, etc. unless you build up thermal models for comparison, I do not think you can claim that this system is not susbstantially different.

davidtheil - 回复

Just wondering why is the thermal paste applied just on a portion of the surface. That doesn't bode well for the thermal conductivity between the chip and the heatsink.

mbaris18 - 回复

Only those are the chips. The non covered part is the PCB substrate

dennis97519 -

Looks like way too much thermal paste to me. Shades of 2011...

john - 回复

A lot of people have complained about Apple obsession with overly-thin computers, and would prefer more battery over a 6 mm reduction in thickness any day (myself included). The simplest way would seem to add more battery under the palm rests, and just left the rest to be "wasted space". Would that that necessarily make the thermal properties of the machine as a whole better? Or would it just create air turbulence inside or make things worse - overheating some other component rather than venting the heat to the air that's blown out the hinge slots? Does the MBP 2016 have *any* other air vents other than the slots under the screen hinge and the keyboard? And does the keyboard really do anything in that regard?

jimwitte - 回复

I swear that big chip has the same proportions of the Motorola 68000

dheady - 回复

Can someone tell me where the Power Pins are?

Does anyone have the exact size/data of it? I would like to render it…

Yuna Braska - 回复

我们辨认了了主板正面的芯片 英特尔 Core i5 处理器(i5-6460U )和Iris Graphics 550 显卡
  • 我们辨认了了主板正面的芯片

    • 英特尔 Core i5 处理器(i5-6460U )和Iris Graphics 550 显卡

    • SK 海力士 LPDDR3 DRAM(H9CCNNNBJTML)

    • Universal Scientific Industrial WiFi 模组(339S025 )

    • 英特尔 JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 控制器

    • 德州仪器 NexFET 通道 MOSFET 功率降压器( 58873D)

    • 博通攝影镜头处理器(BCM15700A2)

    • 镁光 512 MB DDR3L SDRAM(MT41K256M16TW-107)

It is not Intel DSL6510 Thunderbolt 3 controller. It it not DSL6540 either.

From the chip marking, it should be Intel JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 controller.

http://ark.intel.com/products/94031/Inte...

JJ Wu - 回复

What is the 512MB SDRAM by the Thunderbolt controller for?

Luke Elliott - 回复

That is for Broadcom BCM15700A2

JJ Wu -

Can you shed more light on WiFi module, like antennas and specs? Cheers

chipped - 回复

i5-6460U or i5-6360U?

Segno - 回复

can you replace or switch out the CPU or is it soldered onto the logic board?

Daniel Pan - 回复

This just a shame. W u line i5 in a 1700$ notebook.

Rusko Ranchet - 回复

主板背面
  • 主板背面

    • 来一秒钟掌声。海力士 H9CCNNNBJTML LPDDR3 高速动态 DRAM

    • 德州仪器 SN65083966AL7XWGI (2016款MacBook同样配备了此芯片

    • 德州仪器 CD3215B0366AQ8YW G1 x2

    • 华邦 SpiFlash W25Q64FV 64MB 连续读写用缓存

    • 德州仪器 TM4EA231 H6ZXRI 系统管理芯片

    • Cirrus Logic CS42L63A 音频解码器

    • Intersil 95828 HRTZ X630MRR

Looks like the USB-C jacks have a separate daughter board, which plugs into the system board, or is it soldered? Would be a major repairability feature IMHO

Arne Schoch - 回复

Looks like it is soldered, this is going to end up ugly if you manage to break the ports.

Tom Chai -

Can anyone please link a (free) datasheet from the Audio Codec chip? I'm curious to sound quality. How the Macbook Pro Retina mid 2015 (13", 15") sound quality is compared to this new (?) one. Thanks.

Xardas22222 - 回复

Is there two audio chips from Cirrus Logic? There is Cirrus Logic CS42L63A Audio Codec. And, on the upper right corner, there is one chip next to CS42L63A. It has marking "CIRRUS". Is that also audio codec?

JJ Wu - 回复

鉴于Apple移除耳机孔(iPhone 7)的勇气,我们不难理解Apple会在整个产品线中淘汰耳机插孔。 很神奇的是,耳机插孔竟然保留在了Mac上... 但只是一个单模组单元(耳机上的麦克风无法使用,耳机需配合Mac自身麦克风使用),固定在散热风扇上。耳机插孔很轻易的便能取下,方便下一代MacBook Pro换成Lighting或USB-C接口
  • 鉴于Apple移除耳机孔(iPhone 7)的勇气,我们不难理解Apple会在整个产品线中淘汰耳机插孔。

  • 很神奇的是,耳机插孔竟然保留在了Mac上... 但只是一个单模组单元(耳机上的麦克风无法使用,耳机需配合Mac自身麦克风使用),固定在散热风扇上。耳机插孔很轻易的便能取下,方便下一代MacBook Pro换成Lighting或USB-C接口

  • 接下来,我们来仔细看一看扬声器格栅:大部分开孔只是为了美观,只有真正贯穿机身的开孔才是为了四个扬声器和两个麦克风。

Taping the two microphones to the only moving component of the entire system doesn't seem a brilliant solution.

Paolo Lorini - 回复

Placing the two microphones so close to CPU fan is really not a good idea. The other side of the case would be a better place for microphones. Don't understand why Apple makes such a design.

liq74 - 回复

在我们对Retina显示屏下手前,先来看看这个精致的风扇。得益于这些非对称式排列的扇叶,这个风扇非常的安静 更有意思的是,Jony Ive曾经在2016年发布会上说过“更薄且大小不一的扇叶”。但是这项技术却从2012年的MacBook Pro便开始使用
  • 在我们对Retina显示屏下手前,先来看看这个精致的风扇。得益于这些非对称式排列的扇叶,这个风扇非常的安静

  • 显而易见的是风扇并没提供多少空间来带动空气流动--这可能也是此次散热设计如此糟糕的原因之一。Ps:在宣传视频中这风扇看起来可是很不错。

So... correct me if I'm wrong but does this mean if one of these fancy fans breaks I have to remove my logic board to replace it? -_-

turcottesh - 回复

The space not occupied by blades is called spiral housing and is to increase the pressure recovery and the fan is therefore able to increase the flow. Pretty much standard in normal fans, pumps and turbines.

Rainer Riegler - 回复

It's probably not the same design as the touch bar version, as this one much like a improved version of the rMBP13, while the touch bar version are having different lengths of blades (as official website suggested). I'm interested to see what the touch bar version offers.

Xizhi Ma - 回复

是时候来看看屏幕的背面了以及驱动着这些像素的硬件 B1332BDPA 090BX 1605
  • 是时候来看看屏幕的背面了以及驱动着这些像素的硬件

    • B1332BDPA 090BX 1605

    • 美国国家半导体 67A800U 49B1-04

    • 德州仪器 65CLKEI TPS65157

    • NXP LPC812 ARM Cortex M0+ 32-bit MCU

    • 德州仪器 TPS65158 高分辨率 LCD Bias IC

在MacBook的边上我们看到了一个天线细条(由12 P2 五角梅花螺丝固定) 第六个了(固化部件)!还记得那些可以升级内存,换大容量硬盘和拆掉光驱换固态的日子吗? iFixit remembers 在天线模块的背面,我们悄悄的看到了Mac屏幕转轴
  • 在MacBook的边上我们看到了一个天线细条(由12 P2 五角梅花螺丝固定)

    • 第六个了(固化部件)!还记得那些可以升级内存,换大容量硬盘和拆掉光驱换固态的日子吗? iFixit remembers

  • 在天线模块的背面,我们悄悄的看到了Mac屏幕转轴

  • 一个弹簧机械转轴,当屏幕合上时排线被收起,当屏幕打开时排线被松开。这看起来似乎能更简单的合上屏幕盖子

    • 可能是因为屏幕组件减少了重量,现在的MacBook Pro并不能像以往一样仅仅依靠自身重力合上屏幕

This step may reveal the most significant change in the new MacBook Pro models, and one that I was hoping for as it showed up in the most recently released MacBook Air series. I believe we are looking at a flat molded ribbon cable which is carrying the display signal. And why is that so significant?

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The nasty bundle-of-wires these machines have suffered with for the previous 15 years almost universally wear out after about three years. I have a stack of them, and have replaced this cable in dozens. Once Apple changed to hermetically joining the cable to the display unit, it was very very difficult to replace the cable without mangling the display. So a failed cable would necessitated replacing an otherwise operation display.

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As far as I know, the Pismo was the last pro level Apple laptop to sport the hinge-ribbon-cable arrangement and mine still works great after all this time. Perhaps in spite of the ram being soldered down, Apple has at last produced a worthy laptop?

ciradrak - 回复

This may be the most significant change in the new model. It looks like there is a flat ribbon cable to carry the video signal. Those are far more durable than the nasty bundle-of-wires which Apple laptops have been cursed with for the last 15 years. I might bother to buy one.

ciradrak - 回复

Tiny typo: "alone the Pro's spine." should read "along the Pro's spine." :)

Paolo Lorini - 回复

I see the base model has now a 2x2 wifi module, whereas the model year before had 3x3, if I remember correctly.

Steven Zhang - 回复

"...held in by 12 P2 Pentalobe screws...That's the 6th kind of bit."

No, it isn't the 6th kind. The back was held on by pentalobes.

If you mean the 6th kind/size combination, then every notebook, tower, rack server I've ever had would qualify.

alex - 回复

the Pismo was the last pro level Apple laptop to sport the hinge-ribbon-cable arrangement

So Apple used a better ribbon cable arrangement with the Pismo, and then moved *back* to the budle-of-wires-that-always-breaks?! (And it seems like a ribbon cable would also be easier to make)

jimwitte - 回复

我们跳过了屏幕的拆解,之前已经做过类似的屏幕拆解。所以换成这次换成X光咯。你可以看到相机总成以及一根横穿屏幕的连接线,一根金属Apple标志以及几个小磁铁用来实现自动唤醒功能 我们小心的分离机身与屏幕部分,来看看这个精致的全新的铰链 有些时候看似普通的硬件却值得我们为之感叹:这些小的铰链使用了注塑成型工艺来确保更薄更精确
  • 我们跳过了屏幕的拆解,之前已经做过类似的屏幕拆解。所以换成这次换成X光咯。你可以看到相机总成以及一根横穿屏幕的连接线,一根金属Apple标志以及几个小磁铁用来实现自动唤醒功能

  • 我们小心的分离机身与屏幕部分,来看看这个精致的全新的铰链

  • 有些时候看似普通的硬件却值得我们为之感叹:这些小的铰链使用了注塑成型工艺来确保更薄更精确

    • 更重要的是,在这系列 MacBook 中,越是复杂的部件,在生产过程中所产生的废料越比传统机加工所产生的废料少,这是一个巨大的进步

what's the material of injection molded hinges?

Jin Choi - 回复

Hopefully LiquidMetal!

SJDragonetti -

Btw, thanks again for the informative teardown!

Jin Choi - 回复

Having had hinge problems once with a Gateway laptop, these in the new MacBook look durable.

Larry Nolan - 回复

The Apple logo plate seems (in the x-ray picture) to have a horizontal divide about a quarter of the way down, passing between the fruit and the stem.

What's that about?

alex - 回复

> horizontal divide, between the fruit

Maybe a sign that Apple is "cutting the stem"? Not sure if that's good or bad though.. Or maybe Apple does (is planning) to use the same "stem" piece of the inlay in other products with a bigger "apple" part, and this allows for the one piece of the metal inlay to be reused or is easier to make?

jimwitte -

Can you remove the apple logo? Can it be replaced with a clear logo to make it illuminate like the previous model?

Shawn B - 回复

第二代蝶式键盘确实有所提升! Pro的键帽(第一幅图)略高于机身键盘倒角,使得手指更容易找的按键位置
  • 第二代蝶式键盘确实有所提升!

  • Pro的键帽(第一幅图)略高于机身键盘倒角,使得手指更容易找的按键位置

  • 相较于在MacBook(第二幅图)中的第一代蝶式架构,第二代蝶式架构的穹形开关同样触发力度变得更大,更好的配合键帽

LoL this keycap is broken, just like what happened every time I tried to clean the keyboard.

Fei Song - 回复

Does iFixit have the resources/equipment to determine a metal alloy's composition? I'm asking here because of Apple's patents on "Liquidmetal" things like dome switches, hinges, and springs inside Taptic engines. Some LM fans swear that the patents mean that Apple actually uses them in products, but we never see that disclosed in teardowns.

Retiarius - 回复

Yes, good question. I need to see a return on my massive LQMT investment!

SJDragonetti -

Apple has definitely used liquid metal in products. In particular on the release tool for the iPhone / iPad SIM trays.

alex -

> I need to see a return on my massive LQMT investmen

Yes! Since early August to now, because of the MBP, Liquidmetal gained a whole *2 cents*! From 0.15 to 0.17!

jimwitte -

How easy would it be for someone to remove and replace the keys? Say for a different keyboard layout.

trumpettj - 回复

Bump!

I'd really appreciate it if ifixit were to try this for me before I ruin my new MacBook Pro with touch bar.

trumpettj -

Are each keys individually LED backlit like MacBook or some other lighting mechanism ?

Azaz Patel - 回复

Hopefully those are of better quality. Those newer MBP have keys that flat that the surface is quickly torn down (partly missing surface by abrasion or poor quality after 10 months was considered by Apple service as normal and out of warranty)

Martin - 回复

Can you share how the key can be displaced? (I need to change the location of some keys.)

Musto - 回复

I tried gently prying one with a guitar pick and it cracked. Had to send it in for a repair a mere week after purchasing it :(

matthewyaple -

Do function keys ("f" row) have the same locking method as the one on the photo?

Something is stuck underneath one of the keys on my Mac =(

phoganov - 回复

I resolved my issue with a stuck key. I used compressed air can to blow everything from underneath the button and now it works perfectly!

phoganov -

Did you remove any of the keys or just blow air towards the key from the side? Think i have the same problem with my spacebar... :(

anderswennberg5 -

I unfortunately sloshed some coffee onto my keyboard, first time in twenty years I have screwed up like this. Apple wants $620 for the "repair". Would greatly appreciate a little more information on safely removing and replacing keys.

Eric Jacobsen - 回复

... for example, though it is clear that pressure needs to be applied from all four corners, it would be useful to know if the prying should happen from the sides, or the top and bottoms of the keys.

Eric Jacobsen -

I wonder is the butterfly 2 actually "rubber-free?" Which means it's all plastic, so there's no worry about the aging.

Xizhi Ma - 回复

最后:来一张全家福 别忘了:Apple用了华而不实的电脑渲染图来宣传此次全新的MacBook内部结构,但是我们却用了真真正正的拆解图片!
  • 最后:来一张全家福

  • 别忘了:Apple用了华而不实的电脑渲染图来宣传此次全新的MacBook内部结构,但是我们却用了真真正正的拆解图片!

最后的想法
  • 触控板可以在拆解电池前拿下
  • 防撬螺丝使Mac更难被拆解
  • 电池非常难拆,被强力胶粘合在机身上,使得更换电池变得非常困难
  • 内存焊接主板。有需要升级,需要在购买时升级或者就永远8GB,没有其他机会升级
  • SSD(固态硬盘)使用PCIe接口但不是标准接口。虽然未来可能可以升级,但目前还没有可用与升级的SSD
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So, no dual-fan thermal architecture for the non-touchbar version

ant0225 - 回复

This version (non touchbar) is also using TDP 15W CPUs. The 13" one with touchbar is using TDP 28W CPUs (and has probably two fans).

therealmarv -

@chenyu apple's press renders and product site show the 13 inch mb pro with 2 fans

friendsrock80 -

Dual fan is found on the 13" MacBook pro with a touch bar becuase the TDP on the CPU is much higher. (28W). It's also in the 15" MacBook Pro with an 80W TDP, and bigger heat pipes.

Finally, It's a bit sad that you guys didn't compare this year's heat sinks to last years. Do some flow rate testing on the fans, and give us dimensions and weight of the heat sinks from last year to this year. Without making any proper measurements, you cannot make *any* claims about the thermal system being "advanced" or not.

Winter Charm - 回复

It seems, like the version with the Touchbar will have redesigned speakers and up to 2.5x louder bass. This version without Touchbar has definitely no subwoofers shown on the MacBook Pro web page at apple.com.

Niko Millo - 回复

What display panel they use?

Abdurrahman Al Sheyyab - 回复

Previously you have provided straight down shots of the MacBook Pro insides before disassembly - but this time you did not. Can you please be more consistent? I like to use these images as background wallpaper.

Eric - 回复

Expertly done with an entertaining mix of beautiful photos, comedy, and shameless iFixit product plugs. Thanks for the effort, guys, and well done as always.

techt - 回复

Now put it all back together and see if it still works

iwbarker - 回复

Urgh. When Apple first moved to PCI-E SSDs, the proprietary connector was understandable because the SATA consortium had fallen behind where Apple wanted to go.

But now, you can carry as much PCI-E bandwidth as Apple wants over a standardized m.2 slot.

Having yet another proprietary Apple pinout is quite annoying, considering. The cost of upgrading my mid 2014 rMBP 15's SSD is still absurdly high owing to that.

tipoo - 回复

It is absurd. The M.2 standard is just fine for everyone. I have no idea why Apple's priority is on skinny.

Steven Zhang -

I don't mean to sound snide, but if you buy an Apple device, you can hardly complain, because you know that Apple purposely designs planned obsolescence in their hardware. Apple introduced almost every bad practice, which the rest of the ICT industry is now copying:

1. Proprietary connectors for SSD (first Mac Air)

2. Soldered RAM (first Mac Air)

3. Soldered CPU (first Mac Air)

4. Non-removable battery which is glued to case (and sometimes soldered connection) (first iPod, first Mac Air, first iPhone)

5. Metal unibody case

6. Sealed case with custom screws

7. No expandable memory in high-end phones and media players (first iPod, first iPhone)

8. All glass front cover which is prone to cracking (first iPhone)

9. Thinnest edge bezel which decreases protection from drops (iPhone 4)

10. Glass back (iPhone 4)

11. All thin as possible

Once Apple does it, the rest of the industry copies it, because Apple has the highest profits and receives the best reviews. For this reason, I boycott Apple products.

amosbatto -

amosbatto:

I don't think planned obsolesce is planned for most of Apple's devices. E.g., the iPad 2 was still supported as of this moment through iOS 9.3.5. I do not know of any other tablets from 2011 that are actively updated by their makers today. The iPhones and iPods are the same. Soldered CPUs were introduced by Intel, who phased out PGA-type of CPU interconnects beginning with transition to BGA. Soldered RAM is a double edged sword - while you can't upgrade, you can max out to 16GB of RAM (which is default for a few years now on the 15" MBP), as well, Intel supports faster memory clocks on LPDDR3, which is not available as SODIMMs. As DDR3 SODIMMS are limited to 8GB/DIMM, this isn't an issue. You were never going to be able to upgrade beyond 16GB in the first place as higher density DIMMS are only for DDR4+. The batteries have been a common trend in portable devices since MP3 players. I support Gorilla Glass-types of screen covers as they withstand usage better than polycarbonate.

Steven Zhang -

Steven Zhang

"It is absurd. The M.2 standard is just fine for everyone."

It clearly isn't fine for everyone, or Apple would be using it.

Why is a hard call, but given Apple's use of a custom SSD controller, they could be doing things that other interface architectures simply don't support.

Owning the whole chain, end to end, opens up all sorts of possibilities, for example for speeding up virtual memory paging related I/O. If that were the case, then I doubt that Apple would tell you anything other than that it's much faster in some situations, as indeed they did.

alex -

Huh. Looks like only the 15" got the half length fan fins between each full one? Or maybe just Touchbar models? Which would be a bit penny pinch-ey for the latter case, but either way they introduced it as if each new MacBook Pro had it...

tipoo - 回复

Is the Wifi indeed 2x2 now ? It was 3x3 before.

Steven Zhang - 回复

Hi iwas thinking about buy a new macbook pro, Which recommend me, new macbookpro 13" 256gb no touch bar or macbook pro retina 256gb 13"? because it looks like the new version is worst than new one isn`t it?

javierdelkas - 回复

javierdelkas:

The graphics, the monitor and the touchpad are much nicer in the new Macbook Pro 13". If you treasure any of those, go for the new one.

Steven Zhang - 回复

People asking about graphics decisions in Apple's laptop line just need to think about 1 piece of information - TDP 15/28W for the Intel processors. The Radeon Pro 400 series in the 15" MBP has a TDP "less than 35W". People clamoring (like me initially) for dreams of a Pascal based nVidia 1060/1080 realize the GTX1060 mobile has a TDP of 75W....I would venture that is near or exceeds the TDP for the entire system. This is in line with the 900M series, but provides desktop GPU performance, but still......hot.

Apple did use the 750M at a TDP of 50W in the 2014 Retina 15" MBP, the the machines have gotten thinner since that time.

Jon Steuernagle - 回复

hi all, is the 3,5 audio jack just and normal jack or is it "hiding" the TOSlink digital audio interface as previous model?

on the Apple products page is not specifically written as on previous MacBook Pro...

diendi - 回复

I also would like to know if the audio jack is capable of optical out! Previous MacBook Pro stated that in the Tech Specs but the latest version does not mention optical out. Thanks!

Superkloton - 回复

@diendi and @Superkloton: Regarding digital audio, here's a screenshot of the system report from my early 2011 MacBook Pro, which clearly shows the S/PDIF hardware—alongside the system report from the new MacBook Pro Escape, which... doesn't. Based on this, I'd say Apple dropped the digital audio out and wants you to run everything through Thunderbolt/USB-C.

Jeff Suovanen -

@jeffsu Thank you, I think this is true. In the meantime, more reports regarding this surfaced saying it doesn’t have optical out.

Superkloton -

Does the new Universal Scientific Industrial 339S025 wifi support MU-MIMO?

Harold Ront - 回复

is it possible to change the physical keyboard layout from the us to the german version?

philippwehlen - 回复

Is the machine completely sealed, or where air gets out of the chassis? If it has some cavities where air gets out of the chassis, can air (and dust) also get in? How the chassis is similar to, or different from the previous design in this regard?

Doc Brown - 回复

Based on the tear down, I would say that the cooling system is similar to the pre-2013 MBPs in the way it moves air. It sucks air in from the hinge area and exhausts it via a different portion of the hinge area. This system is less dust-prone compared to the 2013+ models where there are additional slats near the sides to aid cooling. Those slats point downwards and from typical usage (laptop on laps, laptop on bed, laptop on table, etc), the downward pointing nature of the intake picks up a lot of fine fibers and dust from whatever surface is beneath the laptop. I noticed this exact behavior on my 2013 MBP as compared to the earlier 2011 MBP (without slats and hinge-only intake and exhaust).

Steven Zhang -

Anyone know the charger system for four port of USB-C?

Joy Chen - 回复

Apple fanboy defending the scam tech. Its funny how they react despite a doomed technology.

While most of us learn, research, evaluate and value the innovation such as Microsoft and enjoy our life as a mortal being.

Why become a sheep when your life is short and they "apple" don't even bother about your existence?

In the end, It doesn't matter at all.

jlieu92 - 回复

I have no idea what you are trying to say. What is "scam tech" ? What makes it "doomed" ? Microsoft innovative ? Your post is full of hyperbole. It sounds like you became a sheep with a different ranch.

Steven Zhang -

Strange then that Microsoft has been remodelling their whole business to be more like Apple, e.g. producing complete systems that they control from end to end, and largely failing, e.g. effectively writing off their Nokia acquisition.

alex -

You sound like the opposite of me... I have a high IQ, that means you probibly don't ;)

Gigabit87898 -

Where is iCloud/ find my mac chip in this bord?

Vishnu - 回复

Why do you want to know?

Gigabit87898 -

Do you mean the Winbond SpiFlash ?

Kevin Gill - 回复

Well, Apple is so fed fat with its 'iDevices', that there is no need to build decent computers anymore, as they used to! I guess, its just a matter of time until they sell out the computer section to Lenovo / Dell! ( That would be a real win! )

Me, myself, I call these 'new' model the ultimate 'iCrap' ! Before spending that amount of bucks, i'd rather get a Dell Core i 5/7 Laptop & build myself a Hackintosh

Alexander deLarge - 回复

You're so right. Still using my 2012 15 inch non retina MBP with 2,6 GHz i7, expanded with 1 TB SSD and 2 TB HDD + 16 GB RAM. And until they make an actual laptop again and not tablet which happens to have a keyboard attached I'm not buying anything else. Sadly that probably won't ever happen again, so I hope it works another 4-5 years from now.

Andy -

me I am already feeling the need to replace my '08 Alu and I am already considering going the Linux way all the way and be done with this new ultra thin and shiny Dark Empire with the rest of iStuff to get out of the picture along my core Alu machine

MiKa -

Very detailed and humorous teardown; thanks!

franklyanne - 回复

Hi,

thanks for the nice teardown. One question, the fan, can it be replaced without removing the logic board? With my past laptops I always had to replace moving parts, but I really don't like to touch too many flat cable or the logic board. So I wonder how complicated it will be to replace the fan once will it be completely covered with dust...

Cheers

Duc

Duc Bao Ta - 回复

You must remove the logic board, because the screws for the fan are on the opposite side. However, Apple's modern fans are very long lasting and the hinge-intake airflow design is much less prone to dust build up than laptops with air intakes at the bottom. You should be able to just remove the back panel and blow compressed air into the heatsink from the outside to release all the dust and fiber buildup.

Steven Zhang -

OMG! What futurist crap! New ssd patern, from sandisk! And what is this crazy USB-c thing? Maybe next decade I buy a only USB-c computer

Alber Einsten - 回复

I bet that future third party SSD will appear like those forecmacbook air.

The MacBook Pro with touch bar can't have any chance for ssd upgrade.

However all chips can be replaced with a little experience and proper tools.

Agnostos Gnostos - 回复

however, the basic reason to buy an Apple machine is to NOT have to mess with its hardware/software that much particularly when you have to pay north of 1,857.87€

MiKa -

So each time you trip over the USB-C charging cable you pocket out good $$ for a new motherboard? Way to go, Apple!

MiKa - 回复

Apple has ALWAYS created things that were different, always did things that were different than the rest of the industry. Back then Apple was considered a niche market and most of the industry pundits wrote Apple off as oddballs with a cult-like following. Back then Apple bucked the industry standards. Back then Apple was still the "little guy"... Back before the release of the iPod and the iPhone. Apple wasn't really considered to be much competition to the market which left a huge share for all the other players.

Microsoft was the guys to beat and everyone hated on every thing they did and you were a drone if you used that OS. Amazing how things have changed... but actually, how much they've stayed the same. People love to hate on the guy at the top of the heap.

David Doyle - 回复

Is it possible to replace the usb-c ports without replacing the motherboard? Is there a separate small board with usb-c on the motherboard or not?

Evgeny - 回复

I would have liked to have seen if the camera indicator LED is powered from the same source as the camera itself. This is an important security feature in other MacBooks, and only iFixit can keep Apple accountable as we move forward. Still got that display lying around?

iEvan - 回复

Maybe you could have a see about this: displays

mini -

I've had this problem with the 12" macbook. A speck of dust broke the shift key within 3 weeks, so I got a full refund since it was covered under the Australian Consumer Laws 30 day return policy, since Apple won't admit the structural fault in their new butterfly style keyboards.

I then got the 13" macbook pro 2016 with a "new and improved" butterfly keyboard to have the same thing happen 2 weeks after purchase. Returned it again, got another one.

I'm just going to repeat this process every 30 days until the next model is released, hopefully then the newer model won't be so susceptible to flecks of household dust.

Or I start using my macbooks in a hermetically sealed room with a cryovac suit on.

Here is a conversation with Applecare about the problem that Apple refuses to identify when you go in store with stuck keys:

https://www.4shared.com/music/8YeBZN75ca...?

sinphild - 回复

How simple is it to clean logic board corrosion on this model? What are the minimum components to remove before you have access to the logic board?

paul.hanna - 回复

2017 model have removable SSD?

nicholasaujalay - 回复

2017 non touch bar with removable SSD?

Martin Langer - 回复

to just take the display top off do you have to still do a complete teardown?

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