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两个星期之前, 我们拆解了新款入门级 13寸 MacBook Pro 来了解它的更轻、更薄、更快,以及(难过脸)相比大部分其他的高端笔记本电脑更差的可修复性。今天,我们把我们的工具用在了配备 Touch Bar 的好兄弟身上。这台机器是不是可以给我们带来更友好的升级感受,或者只是一个一次性的盒子?只有一个办法能搞定:开始拆解!

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今天的百万美元问题:这是13英寸“Escape 版本”的放大版本,还是15英寸 Touch Bar 的缩小版本? 下面是技术规格告诉我们的:
  • 今天的百万美元问题:这是13英寸“Escape 版本”的放大版本,还是15英寸 Touch Bar 的缩小版本? 下面是技术规格告诉我们的:

    • 13.3英寸 LED 背光 IPS Retina 显示屏,分辨率为2560 x 1600(227dpi),支持P3广色域。

    • 2.9GHz Skylake 双核英特尔酷睿i5(可睿频至3.3GHz),配备集成显卡 Iris 550

    • 8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 板载内存(最大支持定制16GB)

    • 256GB、512GB 或 1TB 基于 PCIe 的 SSD

    • 4个Thunderbolt 3(USB-C)接口,支持充电、DisplayPort、Thunderbolt、USB 3.1 Gen 2

    • 带集成 Touch ID 传感器的 Touch Bar

    • Force Touch 触控板

"Today's million-dollar question: Is this a scaled-up version of the 13-inch "Escape Edition," or a scaled-down version of the 15-inch Touch Bar unit? Here's what the tech specs tell us:"

So we'll need the teardown of the 15" to be sure.

alex - 回复

对外壳的初步检查确认了预期的FCC认证,以及一个新型号:A1706。
  • 对外壳的初步检查确认了预期的FCC认证,以及一个新型号:A1706。

  • Touch Bar是很漂亮,但似乎少了什么

  • 你不告诉苹果,我们也不会。

  • 我们很想拿着我们的螺丝刀开始工作 ——但首先,让我们迅速拿出另一个2016年年末发布的13英寸的Retina MacBook Pro 做一些快速比较...

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  • 根据苹果的说法,这个MacBook Pro的尺寸和我们几个星期前拆解的“越狱版”机器完全相同。我们要相信它一秒钟吗?好吧,就信一秒钟

  • 你想念你的功能键吗?按住功能键查看缺少的功能键。变色龙模式,开启。

  • 一个显著不同的地方当然是右舷端口上的情况了。这台配有触摸条的设备配备了两个额外的Thunderbolt端口,所以你有两倍的地方来插入你的加密狗。

  • 将这两台机器放到秤上,我们发现配有触摸条版本的重量比另一台少20克。我们正在确认这个更小的电脑电池间的差异。

  • 最后,我们注意到配备触摸条版本下面的一对侧面通风口,类似于我们在之前的Retina MacBook Pro中发现的——但是没有在配备功能键的型号中。

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  • 展现出通常为iPhones保留的五角螺丝和吸盘之舞,我们用熟练的滑动操作来打开盖子。

  • 让我们玩“一起找不同!”在左边是配备有Touch Bar的MBP,右边是Escape版的MBP。

    • Touch Bar版特点:一个更小的电池,两个风扇,两端散热风槽,没有SSD卡和位置更低的扬声器(实际上与他们的网罩并不一致)。

    • 功能键版的特点:有更多零部件可以从主板上拆除,即SSD,扬声器和电池(好吧...算是吧)。

  • 在配备Touch Bar的型号上,看起来在解决逻辑主板阻碍之前我们只能移除触控板和耳机插孔。

Seems to bad that they put a *smaller* battery into the Touch Bar model. It has a faster processor (2.9 to 2.0 i5), which presumably uses more power. It has a faster memory bus - that might change power usage, and it has two more thunderbolt/USB-C ports (or maybe two thunderbolt/USB-C and two USB-C-only) I don't know whether that would add a bigger power drain unless all four ports are being used.

Could Apple have simply added half an inch thickness and stuffed in more battery cells without turning it into a "thermal bomb"? (Of course they'd never do that because Apple's thin-ness obsession..)

jimwitte - 回复

Why does Escape Edition MBP has only one fan where as Touch bar MBP has two?

samprockstar - 回复

Escape edition has a TDP of 15W, while the Touch Bar edition has a TDP of 28W. Almost twice the heat, so need two fans during heavy duty tasks.

Yin Wang -

  • 看来2016年是新式接口的一年,因为这是我们第二次看到新的电池连接桥的方式。

    • 这些铜垫用于连接到电池的正负极。

  • 苹果似乎也包括一个连接器... 连到哪里呢?

    • 它会是诊断端口吗?电路和固件确实需要测试 ——尽管我们已经看到了相当多的测试点,这通常没有这么多。

  • 我们还发现这个模块化的耳机插孔没有随同麦克风。在这里,我们认为这些都是过时了

  • 在周围我们发现一个进水检测试纸,耐心等待你把冰茶撒在你Touch Bar的那一天,可以通过判断是否变成粉红色来发现是否进水。

Does it really have no mic input for headsets? Or did you mean something else?

Malcolm Hall - 回复

Too many lines to be a diagnostic port, look at the shielding as well, this is a high speed interface.

I'm thinking Apple realized it need a means to access the soldered SSD if the rest of the system died. So this is a jumper block to connect the onboard SSD to either the onboard CPU or externally to another system to access the data on the SSD via the connection. Its also possible it may allow one to add in a daughter board, additional SSD storage.

Dan - 回复

That would be my thought as well Dan, they have to give themselves some way out when you fry your machine.

Jonathan Larson -

Add in a daughter board *where*? (Unless they want to go the way of Google's sadly defunct Ara project..)

jimwitte -

Dan, diagnostic ports often have high speed interfaces (e.g. JTAG and HSSTP) in order to debug onboard controllers.

Michel Kakulphimp - 回复

Yes, thats true it would be on the faster side, but not so fast as to need the extra shielding. Also look at its location and besides a diagnostic port would have fewer lines. I'm very sure you are looking at a 8 lane PCIe interface given the number of lines (1x8+2x4). That would leave the two 4 lane interfaces are for the Thunderbolt chips.

Dan -

So are you saying its 3.5mm jack is just TRS not TRRS?

Joe Blair - 回复

The "diagnostic port" is definitely a "emergency exit" port to access the files from the SSD when the rest of the machine is dead.

Lukather - 回复

Definitely based on.......?

alex -

Until someone gets access to the service manual or training we are just guessing here. Common sense and experience can lead us to the most probable function.

Gaining access to a dead systems SSD is a likely function, the other would be for diagnostics. I'm discounting the diagnostic function as one only needs about 20 lines to setup HSSTP for a low end setup. Remember the MacBook Pro is not that complex a device to need more than the basic setup (this connector is offering 42 pins + 4 grounds as well as a full shield)

Dan - 回复

  • 功能键版本非常类似,Touch Bar版本的触控板单元在拧下十颗T5 Torx螺丝后很容易滑出。

  • 我们还可以高兴地讲,这些来自不同型号的触控板是相同的,并且可能是交叉兼容的。

    • 然而,电缆布线不同于适应经过修改的逻辑主板设计。所以,如果你打算替换一个破损的触控板,一定要使用原来的柔性印刷电路。

  • 以防你错过了,这里是我们最初确认的一些IC:

    • 意法半导体STM32F103VB ARM Cortex-M3 微处理器

    • 博通 BCM5976C1KUFBG 触摸控制器

    • 美信集成 MAX11291ENX 24位, 6通道 高通滤波器

What those ics responsible for?

Sos Mac - 回复

Wheres the taptic engine? There's three settings for feedback level, so it's in there somewhere.

samsung154 - 回复

  • 我们准备移出其余的外围元件。如果能看看电池、风扇、散热器和扬声器就棒极了。除非我们打不开。

  • 对称的逻辑电路板保护其余元件,因此我们从其连接电缆上撬出,并将其从外壳中取出。

  • 散热器通过底部的螺钉连接到逻辑电路板。把电路板从外壳中取出后,我们能够移除散热器进行检查 - 在每个方向上运行的热管,是入门级型号的热管的两倍

Does anyone have any idea of who makes the heat piping? Or do they make them in-house?

jimwitte - 回复

  • 现在我们来看看这胡子一样的逻辑电路板板,看看是什么芯片让这个MacBook成为Pro版的:

    • 英特尔酷睿 i5-6267U 处理器,配备了Iris Graphics 550 图形处理器

    • 英特尔 JHL6540 Thunderbolt 3 控制器

    • 闪迪 SDRQKBDC4 064G 64 GB NAND 闪存 (2颗 总计128 GB)

    • 三星 K4E6E304EB-EGCE DDR3 DRAM (4 x 2 GB 总计8 GB)

    • 德州仪器 SN650839 66AL7XWGI, 和TI/Stellaris LM4FS1EH SMC Controller (TM4EA231 的替换型号)

    • 村田/苹果 339S00056 Wi-Fi 模块

    • R4432ACPE-GD-F

Why are they using 4x2 GB RAM modules? Is this making any sense? Didn't they just use one?

Albert Zweistein - 回复

That is JEDEC LPDDR3 spec and the spec intel processor supports.

The LPDDR3 chip supports 32-bits data width and to support 128-bits LPDDR3 data width intel processor supports . It needs 4 four LPDDR3 chips.

JJ Wu -

A couple of possible reasons:

- Wiring for 4 chips would be necessary to support the 1TB SSD option (4 x 256GB)

- Access is faster when solid state storage is spread over more chips (wider bus).

Neil Maller - 回复

Not sure I follow you here. The RAM interface is independent of the SSD interface (PCIe).

Dan -

Intel Core i5-6267U processor only supports LPDDR3 upto 1866Mhz (base on Intel link). If the LPDDR3 in the MacBook Pro has maximum data rate is 2133Mhz. Is the maximum data rate 2133 or 1866 Mhz?

Nguyen Hung Son - 回复

Apple control so much of what they use that it gives them potential to go a long way outside the box.

Given that they totally control the SSD controller, then there are things that they could do to greatly improve paging performance to fast SSD. And those things could well involve wanting the widest memory path that they can get.

alex - 回复

Could "R4432ACPE-GD-F" be "F4432ACPE-GD-F"? That should be the SSD controller which is the same one in the MBP w/o Touch Bar.

JJ Wu - 回复

which network card is in it?..........

Abhishek Jindal - 回复

  • 翻转逻辑电路板,我们发现不少组件,包括:

    • 闪迪 SDRQKBDC4 64 GB NAND闪存存储(如越狱版的见到的可移动SSD) ——总计256 GB

    • APL1023 343S00137 (likely the custom 很可能是定制的与Touch Bar配对的 Apple T1 芯片 )

    • 2x 德州仪器 TI CD3215C00 68C7QKW G1

    • Intersil 95828 HRTZ X630MRD

    • (苹果?) 338S00193-A1 16348HCI

    • 华邦电子 SpiFlash W25Q64FVZPIQ 64 Mb 串行闪存

    • 恩智浦半导体 66V10 NFC 控制器, 包括安全芯片 008 和恩智浦半导体 PN549 (和在 iPhone 6s 上看到的一样)

Does the NFC chip mean that the MBP could theoretically be used with Apple Pay? Or is there some other reason they would have included it? (Apple, *futureproofing*? The devices are almost hermetically sealed, so there's probably no possibility of even an "Apple blessed" upgrade option) Chipworks has their docs on it, but they cost many hundreds or thousands of dollars each (do they perhaps have a student discount?)

jimwitte - 回复

It's only for the secure element. If my memory is right, the iPad also has a similar controller but doesn't support NFC.

Dean Lubaki -

Likely used for Mac OS High Sierra’s NFC setup functionally for AirPods and Tethering.

Alex - 回复

I want to buy this. Where can I find it? Can you help me?

2x Texas Instruments TI CD3215C00 68C7QKW G1

Mohammad Henno - 回复

  • 背面其他芯片:

    • 2个百利通 PI3WVR12612 HDMI 2.0, DisplayPort 1.2 视频切换器

    • 凌云逻辑 CS42L83A 音频编码器

    • 美国国家半导体 66A82NU 48B1-004

    • 德州仪器 TPS51916 内存电源同步降压控制器, 和 TPS51980A 同步降压控制器

    • 德州仪器 TMP513A PMIC

    • 2个 仙童半导体 FDMC7570S PMIC

    • 仙童半导体 FDMC86106LZPMIC

Does anyone have a datasheet for the audio logic? (CS42L83A) I cannot find one on the internet.

Xardas22222 - 回复

The two buck controllers drive the display and keyboard LED backlights.

Dan - 回复

Did you mean the backlight of the display, or the whole display?

Xizhi Ma -

  • 配备Touch Bar 的MacBook Pro 的另一大特色是添加了Touch ID。

  • 帮助驱动这个巧妙功能的硬件包括一个整合了电容式传感器的按钮,可以区分不同的用户。为生物识别喝彩。

    • 这个按钮也作为电源按钮,所以维修电源钮可能比以前更昂贵得多。

  • Touch ID 按钮表面覆盖有蓝宝石水晶,它应该可以防止指纹识别器刮伤。

Are you seeing any water protection around the Touch ID button and case? This is one part I see needing to be regularly cleaned (just like on the iPhone) to get rid of oils so it actually works.

plink53 - 回复

@plink53 - Looking at the images it doesn't look like any sealant was added where the part meets the body. I would have expected a gasket or sealant caulk traces to be seen, none are. Thats also true with the Touch Bar & Track Pad as well.

Dan - 回复

as if capacitive buttons just break

James Deng - 回复

"...fingerprint reader, the tech has been around since at least 2004...."

try 1994

But Apple's works. Not just as a demo, but on an everyday basis.

alex - 回复

Samsung and Micron/MicronPC/MPC laptops had fingerprint readers and security software using them since the late 1990's. Dunno if Samsung continued to do so after MPC went out of business in 2008, cutting off that channel for selling Samsung's high end laptops in the North American market.

galane - 回复

My Touch ID is loos...Is that a common problem?

DTO - 回复

mine is loose too, not sure if it will cause problems

xhz -

Hi everyone

What is the black “plastic” which be two black screws hold?

Is it make button more elasticity?

Thank you

Hsiao-Yang Fu - 回复

  • 悬挂在逻辑板的每一端,我们找到一个小型,模块化的USB-C电路板。

    • 因为我们喜爱的的MagSafe 磁吸接口已经退役了,插电源线上的步骤很有可能损坏您的端口——所以,很高兴看到USB-C 硬件可以单独更换(虽然你必须拆开逻辑板才能触及它)。

  • 虽然两个USB-C模块看起来一样,但苹果指出,只有左侧端口提供全带宽的Thunderbolt 3 性能。

  • 到了这里,我们终于可以把风扇抽出来。这个被重点介绍的风扇直径为43毫米,比我们在入门级MacBook Pro 中发现的45毫米风扇小一点(但是,你有了两个)。

I think it was a big mistake to loose the MagSafe concept for the power cord. I've tripped on my cord a few times thankfully the cord disconnected before the laptop took a spill.

Dan - 回复

Could the USB-C hardware-connector spec be made with a magnetic clasp? Or does Microsoft have a patent on doing that for something with more than 5 pins?

jimwitte -

  • 两排扬声器栅格优雅地放置在MacBook 的边缘和键盘之间——精心制作的通风口,可以将声音从MacBook Pro直接传到...等一下。

    • 扬声器并不在扬声器栅格下方。扬声器栅格甚至没有透过外壳。

    • 这些扬声器可能是通过侧面通风口发出令人印象深刻的声音。

  • “栅格”看起​​来似乎是装饰品,也许是用来统一产品线的。奇怪的是,功能键版本也有一些假的开孔,尽管不尽相同。

  • 更新拆解:好吧,大多数这些孔都是装饰品,但在后面的步骤中拆掉高音扬声器后,很明显,其中有一些是通孔可以将声音传出Mac外。

It looks to me like these speakers are simply ported— a common technique used in home theater speakers to achieve bigger sound. Also, the way this is laid out the speakers are further away from the logic board too, which might allow Apple to crank the bass further up, knowing that potentially chip-breaking low-frequency sound waves have more distance to dissipate.

Slipp D - 回复

All those perforations probably shave off quite a few grams of weight compared to a solid slab of aluminium.

matthiasbartosik - 回复

Perhaps - then why didn't they put *more* of them in? Since weight seems to be second only to thin-ness on Apple's list-of-priorities.

jimwitte -

"These speakers likely blast their impressive sound through the side air vents."

Eyes are useful, but for some things Ears can be a better tool?

alex - 回复

I have this Mac. If you cover those "fake" holes, it sound totally different. Try it in an Apple store and you'll see... hear?

Lok - 回复

I spill only a drop of water at speaker grill on the left. Is it damaged my macbook?

Chinnawat Ong-art - 回复

If you cover the speaker grilles it does block the sound, your detail is incorrect.

Anthony Brocco - 回复

so the grills only go clear through the case at the bottom as shown ? I dropped only a few drops of liquid on the upper grills beside the delete button and cleaned it right away, is it safe ?

Peter Labib - 回复

Yeah, despite all the whining in the comments, all those speaker holes up there ARE cosmetic. The only ones that are actual, functional holes in the aluminum are way down next to the right arrow key. As long as your spill didn’t get onto the keyboard keys or the power button, you’re perfectly fine—it’s no different than if you got some liquid onto the palm rest or the display lid. Rest easy!

Jeff Suovanen -

Thank you buddy very much, I was really worried

Peter - 回复

  • 遇到了粘合剂的阻力,我们组合使用了一个撬片和一根撬棒,从上表面撬出右侧扬声器。

  • 我们用我们的小眼睛窥探什么可能是一个极小的扬声器,嵌在“真正的”扬声器上方的角落里。

    • 从较小扬声器下方的通孔判断,我们猜测这是一个用于产生高频声音的高频扬声器。

  • 我们喜欢功能键版MBP 用来固定扬声器的橡胶缓冲隔音螺丝。看起来Touch Bar 版选择使用胶水来替代。

In the 13 step you said the speakers aren't under the speaker grills, but in this step I see that the tweeter is under the speaker grills. Is that true?

Antonio R - 回复

Hmmm, two-way audio system in a Mac laptop? Interesting.

hugostonge - 回复

It is a two way sound system. If you cover the top "holes" with your hands the high frequency cuts out. However, it's hard to tell if all the holes are drilled or just enough for the tweeter. In any case it sounds great and is LOUD. I suppose the function key model though will sound better.

Hector Ordorica -

  • 我们离Touch Bar 如此接近,我们几乎可以触摸到它。

  • 苹果似乎在通过用P2 五角梅花形螺丝固定Touch Bar 来展示它的黑科技。

    • 幸好我们总是有所准备

  • 我们从外壳底部中拔出连接电缆——这将逻辑主板连接到Touch Bar 显示屏,并可能连接了一些显示芯片。我们发现有:

    • 意法半导体 32A 8628

"We're so close to the Touch Bar we can almost, well, touch it."

except that you broke it in step 13, so mind you don't cut yourself.

alex - 回复

The power/Touch ID button needs to be replaced at the same time as the logic board, or vice versa as they're paired at the factory presumably. So a power button means you have to transfer ALL the data from one SSD to the next!!

Positive Intent - 回复

  • 接下来需要加热。我们呼叫我们的朋友iOpener帮助我们拆除Touch Bar。

  • 孩子们,听好了,划重点了! 今天,我们将学习如何不小心弄坏Touch Bar。我们从上部的外壳中分离OLED 面板时导致数字转换触控屏与显示屏分离。学到老,活到老。

  • 雪上加霜的是Touch Bar 柔性电缆断在外壳下面,这让拆解变得超出预期地烦人.

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  • 人的触摸需要由大脑处理。Touch Bar 需要由芯片来处理。通过拆解,我们发现Touch Bar 的大脑:

  • 移除OLED条的确很困难,但我们的努力不会白费!也许有些徒劳。好吧,我们的努力白费了(我们的希望和梦想也是)。Touch Bar太脆弱了。

  • 我们偶然发现一个没有标记的芯片,更是增加了Touch Bar 的脆弱之迷。考虑到它的位置,它可能是显示驱动器之类的东西。

  • 在移出所有组件后,我们发现了一个三麦克风阵列。最左边的一个是用来听什么的?是风扇?还是键盘?谁知道呢!

The third microphone is probably there to remove fan noise + keyboarding clicking noise.

Tobias Due Munk - 回复

Nah - I'd guess it's either Apple and/or the NSA listening in on sex chats.. (Oh, sorry, that was my inner Steve Bannon..)

jimwitte -

Does photo 2 here serve as confirmation that the leftmost part of the touch bar is inactive, meaning that a soft escape key cannot be properly located far enough left to be directly above the backquote/tilde key?

John Pane - 回复

But it's actually touchable. If you touch the leftmost part of the touch bar, esc-key will be pressed (and highlighted).

Andrey Startsev -

The mic is probebly for Siri as in iphone use the upper mic for siri and not the "talking" buttom mic.

Sos Mac - 回复

  • 终于,我们取出(被强力粘附)五节电池。

    • 好吧,差不多五节吧!左右两个电池对并联,与中间的电池具有相同的充电容量,三个3.8V的电池串联产生11.41V 的标称电压。

    • 你最好希望你的“Pro”生命很短;因为更换电池就像是个谎言。

  • 电池主板上的芯片为 TI BQ20Z451(可能是在MacBook Pro 中经常看到的 BQ20Z45-R1 的变种)

  • 标称容量49.2 Wh ,相比功能键版本的54.5 Wh,这个电池似乎有点小—特别是考虑到它要驱动更多的功能。

  • 我们依次称取这些电池的重量:配备功能键的MacBook Pro 电池重235克,而这个电池仅重197克。

    • 重量的差异解释了Touch Bar 版本容量小的原因,但相比减轻的重量,减小电池容量比预期的多。

Hello this rMBP 13,3" with touch bar , the battery how many mHa ?

Portable External Battery perspective I'm interested in

Imre Office - 回复

How could the touch bar edition feature a smaller battery but yet about the same batter hour of usage at 10 hours?

honorousjack - 回复

Those cells look tiny. I hope next year's model has a capacity of at least 70 watt hours with two cells in each one.

balkicityfossils - 回复

What about the keyboard? Can it be replaced?

Jakob Zimmermann - 回复

Do you really have to take 18(!) steps in order to remove the battery of a touch bar model? Seems a little exaggerated to me.

Roderick - 回复

This isn't a guide—it's just an overview of the hardware.

Jeff Suovanen -

  • 这就是2016款配备Touch Bar的13英寸 MacBook Pro 的拆解合集了!

  • 有没有因为我们没有到拆解显示屏而感到失望?其实过程和我们13英寸功能键版的拆解一致——就是拆卸天线和弹簧等等。

Nothing about the wifi card?? Is there a wifi card or its also solderd to the board?

Sos Mac - 回复

最后的想法
  • 触控板无需先取出电池就可拆除。
  • 专有的Pentalobe 螺丝继续增加了维修设备不必要的困难。
  • 电池组件完全地且非常牢固地粘附到外壳中,使得更换变得非常复杂。
  • 处理器,内存和闪存都被焊接在逻辑主板板上。
  • Touch Bar成为第二个难以更换的屏幕。
  • Touch ID 传感器兼作电源键,并与逻辑电路板上的T1 芯片配对。修复损坏的电源键可能需要来自Apple的帮助或替换为全新的逻辑电路板。
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what a mess inside. especially given the spaces around the batteries, and the off position of speakers, looks like the chassis was optimised for the non-touchbar version (much cleaner layout, removable SSD, no gaps), and touchbar addition was a later decision. Maybe initially they envisaged only the 15" would have touchbar.

a similar case of "odd unused chassis space" happened with the first gen 13" retina macbook pro, which had empty space under the trackpad. Was probably a late decision to use small form SSD over 2.5" SSD. this empty space was used up on subsequent updates.

to me the touchbar version has way too many compromises. the biggest issues are: smaller battery, while using a processor with a higher TDP. and non upgradable SSD (arguably the only component that might require future upgrade, unless you want to pay extraordinary money right now).

Kim Zhou - 回复

How do you do a power rest if the machine hangs? Before you held down the power button for a few seconds. Would that work with a touch ID button?

Maxim - 回复

It still is a physical button. Just like the iPhones (except iPhone 7).

mamufek -

I would assume that you still do - the Touch ID sensor is still a physical button, so there's no reason it doesn't work like a normal button as before. However, to stop it shutting down the machine with a single click, I'd imagine macOS has some code in it saying "if the power button is pushed while the computer is on, it's probably for Touch ID things, so don't shut down".

WilliamTM -

in fact you have to press it long to act like a power button says the apple support page :P

oowaschbaeroo -

First generation computers tend to lend themselves to some issues. However, given the price bump and the Apple brand I was expecting more, much more. The concept seems nice, the hardware implementation not so much. Laptops are to be mobile, so sacrificing battery life for weight is not a design decision that appeals to me. With Skylake I was expecting the REAL battery life to surpass 12 hours...

Paulo Neves - 回复

MacBook Pro with SSD RAID 0 inside?

Peter Gamble - 回复

Not here, sorry ;-{

Dan -

So can you move the touch ID sensor to another mac? Does it still work? Or are we going to have an Error 53 for Mac and a connect to iTunes screens.

Miles Blakesley - 回复

Of course you can't. It's like the TouchID on iPhones and iPads. It's paired with the T1.

Gianluca Borchia -

probably everything works execpt touchID, hopefully apple learned their lesson

Ethan Chow -

Whoever writes these teardowns, dear sir/ma'am, you deserve a medal.

nysarne - 回复

I 2nd that! Great job folks!

Dan -

Lack of repair-ability is understandable and unavoidable in today's world of disposable gadgets. If my $500 laptop craps out, so be it. However, $2000 worth of computer is not disposable. I would never buy another macbook.

jhjh - 回复

It's not unrepairable. It's just unrepairable by unequipped amateurs, which is where iFixit sell their bits and pieces.

And those same things that make it more difficult to repair, also make it less likely to go wrong in the first place.

Again, not in iFixit's commercial interest to encourage.

alex -

I guess I see things a bit differently than Alex here. True IFIXIT is a business as such they do need to make money, but its more than that. The vision is to not create waste by repurpose or repair. The more Apple goes down this path of non-repairable it kills their own mission of being ecology minded. People don't want to throw away a $2 - 3 K system just to get a bit more memory or storage. They want some expandability! Likewise, being forced to replace major assemblies to deal with a small part failure is also wasteful!

Dan -

Random question - what do you end up doing with the things you tear down after? Do they all go back together again (and end up in full working condition)?

Andrew - 回复

As you can see they've already ruined a lot of things, so this is not going back together.

Tom Chai -

From the IFIXIT team: "Not to worry—we definitely don't let our teardown devices go to waste. Oftentimes we will use them to create a full set of repair guides. We create some in-house and also send devices through our edu program to teach technical writing. You can learn more about that here. After that, we make sure they find a good home, or dispose of them responsibly."

Dan -

Wait, no split fin fans in the touchbar 13" either? I thought their website showed the touchbar 13" as having them...?

nitesh singh - 回复

'On the 15-inch MacBook Pro, an innovative split blade design allows for more blades and delivers increased airflow.'

http://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/

unsubstantiated -

Somebody should tell the Apple guys at the wheelhouse that an iLaptop is not an iPhone before it is too late and most of us have jumped the iShip before some new Jobs guy has emerged to save it after all the latest course these guys have set.

MiKa - 回复

If you compare in Step 4 the two versions of the MacBook, you can see the version without the touch has the vent openings for the second fan too.

TheLOD2010 - 回复

"The speakers are not located under the speaker grilles. The speaker grille doesn't even go clear through the case."

Yet the tweeter can clearly be seen in the red box in this image:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/j13u5ev3ypekr8...

Okay then iFixit....

Nicholas Griffin - 回复

Noted and the text was corrected clarifying the openings are for the twitter speaker.

Dan -

Does step 17, photo 2 serve as confirmation that the leftmost part of the touch bar is inactive, meaning that a soft escape key cannot be properly located far enough left to be directly above the backquote/tilde key?

John Pane - 回复

The area is the interface to the ribbon connector that goes to the logic board. I do agree the placement is troubling. I suspect the designer wanted to be symmetrical with the other side as the Touch ID/Power Switch is the same amount of space so the Touch Bar is cropped in on that side. I'm surprised as well they didn't think this through. I would have brought the Touch display all the way to the left edge and used the underside for the connection point. There is no reason it couldn't be a bit asymmetrical.

Dan -

> There is no reason [the Touch Bar] couldn't be a bit asymmetrical.

Except that Jobs liked symmetry..

jimwitte -

As long as the battery is glued in and the ssd and ram are not upgradeable, i'm not buying one. I'm glad I bought a mid-2012 non-retina when I did.

darthd - 回复

You want retina.

Kim Zhou -

Sure I'd love to have a retina display with the benefits of the older case design! Is Apple listening?

Dan -

what a shame! apple think all their users are stupid. they probably are 99% right. Who cares if you cant upgrade the ssd? The next step will be solder the battery too? What else they can invent to suck the idiots money? I fell terrible windows pc are so much worst... for now who cares about upgrade at least the ssd will be in the hunt for the old models. And sandisk? common, this is only to change to samsung ssd next year and announce a twice fast ssd?

Alber Einsten - 回复

"What else they can invent to suck the idiots money?" How does a book for 300 bucks sound?

http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/15/13635...

Thomas J -

it's crazy apple designed a separate 13 inch function key model instead of just shrinking down the touch bar model, sure it might save money on the long run, but design and testing and manufacturing two completely different 13 inch would mean ........................................................................................people from macbook air department would still keep their jobs.

Dan Fu - 回复

This is the mate to the 13" Function key model Here is the 15" Touch Bar Teardown. What are you saying here, you want the new MacBook to have the Touch Bar?

Dan -

Am I reading the data sheet for the ram correctly? The Samsung ram was released in 2012, and is rated at ~1066MHz??? Is this somehow run in tandem to yield 2133MHz?

Briefly looking through some of the early Geekbench scores, it seems the new rMBP doesn’t have much of an edge, if any over the predecessor. Upon looking closer, it seems the memory tests are slower on the newer model. This doesn’t add up per Apple’s claim! Is this yet another crippling disappointment?

Brian B - 回复

I guess the third microphone will become "visible" in the 15" model. In this 13" model it must be switched off (for sure).

weruaga - 回复

Why da fcuk do you need to open it?!

IT JUST WORKS!

Ok, the Sandisk SSD can break down, that can happen. But everything else is working forever.

Andron MacBeton - 回复

You do realize that the SanDisk SSD is now soldered onto the logic board, it may be the first to die, but if it dies the entire board is useless and thus you will need a logic board replacement. Lets hope you keep backups because without a removable SSD there's no chance of getting your data recovered.

jesusfrk258 -

It appears you do not grasp the concept of why repair guides are created:

~1 Some people (like me) just LOVE knowing how things work - that's how we become engineers, and are able to repair things and design other things, make informed decisions (which we can confidently pass on to others with less inclination or interest to know this stuff.)

~2 Because repairing your own device teaches you independence and VALUABLE skills which are transferable and profitable, and also enjoyable to learn and practice.

It's also fine to be a consumer who DOESN'T, but it's illogical for you to criticise or chastise those who DO take them apart, kapish?

Matt Foot -

GOLD contacts, not copper; the copper is the underlying substrate that is the PCB trace.

Matt Foot -

With respect, iFixit, leave the puns to us English folks, your attempts are extremely contrived and... well... they don't work and detract from the articles you feel the urge to force them into. PLEASE, just don't try to be funny - we come here to see things stripped down, not for comedy - others do it way better.

Thanks :)

Matt Foot -

Could the extra microphone be there to pick up fan noise in order to subtract it from the desired (External) signal?

turmunder - 回复

Thank you for teardown.

Ali2 - 回复

With respect, iFixit, add additional puns. We love your extremely contrived attempts at humor. They simply work, never detracting from the articles. They are as welcome as caviar on toast. Please, be funny! We come here for two things, stripping and comedy. No one else does it better.

Thanks {:-)

sarre9 - 回复

Hello,

Does anyone know if these new Macbook pros have 3x3 Wi-Fi antennas like the 2013 models ?

Thank you !

Dan - 回复

This model appears to have 3 transmit antennas (see image of the back without cover, near right fan). I think this is a 3x3 wifi model. The non-touch bar model is 2x2.

Steven Zhang -

Curious what the shielded port is for. I am skeptical that it is for reading the SSD, since the SSD usually needs communication with the SMC, CPU and requires 3.42v and 3.3v S0 voltages to power it (among other circuits/signals). Unless the reader tool which plugs in independently powers the SSD ICs, I think it will be unlikely.

I think there is a high chance it is just a shielded diagnostic port, to better protect it from liquid damage. On older models (Macbook Air is a good example) if the diagnostic port gets liquid damaged, Apple can no longer use the port to read important voltages. It can also prevent the Macbook from working correctly, which is why a lot of diagnostic ports get removed by 3rd party repair centres.

In time, we will see I guess...

Reece - 回复

I've had many laptops over the years and at the end of use I always removed the data disk in order to protect my privacy. Now I have security/privacy concerns about the soldered SSD. If the logic board (or the SSD itself) goes wrong, how can you ensure that the data is removed?

Bob K - 回复

Nah, it's pretty simple. Turn on FileVault encryption (you already have it on don't you?), and then when you remove your userID and recovery key you make the SSD unreadable.

Spinner Monk -

Alternatively, you could remove the logic board and destroy the SSD by smashing the data chips. I'd be a bit of a waste, but it's secure!

TheComputerCellar -

Sir ifixit engineers if the touch bar is fragile I think it will be broken when taken by non experts or local repair technicians.what to do unless we replace it we do not need to touch it.for replacing keyboard is it necessary to remove touch bar I am asking this because it is so fragile.i know you're experts.pls help ifixit engineers as soon within less time I am waiting for you

muhammed dilshad - 回复

Sir pls help I look your website everytime for disassembly

muhammed dilshad - 回复

Sir ifixit where is the harddisk and dvd drive.plshelp as soon as possible

muhammed dilshad - 回复

Why apple is making it's laptops unrepairable

muhammed dilshad - 回复

Ives has too much input at Apple. He has developed an anorexic approach to design. He has slimmed down the look of MacOS from a 3D look to a flat bland desktop. Functional and repair sacrifices were made to make the equipment "The thinnest we ever made it" The touch bar is a nice idea but it can only be fixed by replacing the entire top of the computer. I have replaced just the keyboard for a MBP for just $40. It's held in with over 30 very small screws and was a lot of work. Still fixable though. Apple just replaces the whole top. We couldn't be foiled with special screws. Just solder and glue everything in place now. The touch bar is, in effect, part of the upper frame. USB C is great as a multiport but the loss of Magsafe is just wrong. We are back to our laptops flying off the tables again. Oh wait - More broken Macs that have to be replaced! Soldered in drives for the sake of thinness, look how this compulsion worked for Karen Carpenter.

Carl Manuelian - 回复

got one and i love it. couldn't be happier. might be an idiot, but at least a happy idiot :)

Daniel - 回复

Why is there 5 batteries and not 3? One big would have bigger capacity than 2 smaller.

longpeoplehair - 回复

Where is the wifi Chipset for the 802.11 and Bluetooth? why didnt you guys list it for the 15 inch model and you listed it for the 13 inch?

Moe Khan - 回复

Hey there Moe Khan! In step 8 there is the Murata/Apple Wi-Fi chip. This is likely a combination of both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. Unfortunately this is a proprietary chip, so there is no publicly available data sheet (at least as far as I know). This means we can't confirm that this is FOR SURE a Bluetooth chip. We are just "pretty sure". I hope this helps you! (I also responded to your post on the 15" MBP with Touch Bar).

Scott Havard -

From the Samsung part no decode, it should be LPDDR3.

cl chao - 回复

what kind of adhesive do you use to put the battery back as well as the trackpad and other adhered parts?

Joshua - 回复

Hello I am contacting you from the Experimac East Orlando store. I was wondering if the Display was easily removable or if i would have to do something with the Touch Bar to remove the screen. Looking forward to more Tear Downs, thanks again iFixit Team!

Store Manager - 回复

Hello. I just broken my screen. What are the chances that it can be fixed?

Mahrukh Isa - 回复

Nothing there about keyboard disassembly.

Mine has several keys that are now mushy and not clicky and I'd like to see a way of getting it apart without breaking the butterfly assembly.

Anyone?

Broad Gavin - 回复

Are there tamper proof screws or other booby traps that would let Apple know the computer has been opened up to void a warranty?

ingerdave1 - 回复

Recently got my screen broken and went black as just the “broken” area displays strands of colors. Went to Apple Store and said that they would reply within the day but never got any feedback from them. Can the Retina Display be repaired without the need of buying another laptop? If it can, how much can it be to repair it? I would appreciate any answers. Thank you.

Jose Luis Villaseñor - 回复

Please make a tutorial of how to apply new, quality thermal paste to the Macbook pro’s processor. Quinn of Snazzy Labs showed us, that using higher quality paste results in about 10% performance gains.

Máté Adorján - 回复

In regards to the MacBook Pro internal cables/parts, can some one tell me what “Mylar BMU eDP TCON” is?

Stefan Lewis - 回复

Can the battery be removed/replaced without the full teardown?

cedricsims - 回复

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